Hi, I have a problem with infinite recursion in Magritte. This problem was discussed on this list before. The problem is having circular dependencies in descriptions. I tried to utilize the hints from Lukas to use reference: (MADynamicObject on: (MyObject descriptionsWithoutReferences)) Having a descriptionsWithoutReferences introduces an infinite loop by itself. So I changed it to getDescriptionsWithoutReferences. This prevents the infinite recursion but doesn't work really well with the ActiveRecord implementation from Ramon (at least in my case). So I decided to change Magritte not to do infinite recursion. I changed MADescriptionBuilder>>for: anObject ^ cache at: anObject ifAbsent: [ cache at: anObject put: true. cache at: anObject put: (self build: anObject). ]. I know this looks very ugly but I don't have an idea how to do this more elegant. My question is if this change introduces problems elsewhere in Magritte? I don't like to fix one problem by creating another one :) thanks, Norbert