24 Jan
2010
24 Jan
'10
5:37 a.m.
Did I miss an announcement? Does this mean we have a Pier that works
(or nearly works) with Seaside 3?
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24 Jan
24 Jan
9:41 a.m.
Did I miss an announcement? Does this mean we have a
Pier that works
(or nearly works) with Seaside 3?
Yes, it works thanks to the hard work of Julian, Nick and various other people.
As far as I know there are no bugs. There are daily builds at
<http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/>. And Dale made a
Metacello definition at <http://www.squeaksource.com/metacello/>, I
have not tested that one myself though.
Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with Pier 2 preloaded.
I've put that one on the website because it is required for the book:
http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip
Lukas
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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
25 Jan
25 Jan
4:56 a.m.
I need to update the Pier2 addons configuration and then I'll push out Metacello
configs for Magritte2, Pier2 and PierAddOns2 and a ConfigurationForSeaside that provides
"one stop shopping" for Seaside2.8, Magritte, Pier, Seaside3.0, Magritte2, and
Pier2 ...
Dale
----- "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
| > Did I miss an announcement? Does this mean we have a Pier that
| works
| > (or nearly works) with Seaside 3?
|
| Yes, it works thanks to the hard work of Julian, Nick and various
| other people.
|
| As far as I know there are no bugs. There are daily builds at
| <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/>. And Dale made a
| Metacello definition at <http://www.squeaksource.com/metacello/>, I
| have not tested that one myself though.
|
| Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with Pier 2
| preloaded.
| I've put that one on the website because it is required for the book:
|
| http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip
|
| Lukas
|
| --
| Lukas Renggli
| http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
|
| _______________________________________________
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26 Jan
26 Jan
11:15 p.m.
>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli
<renggli(a)gmail.com> writes:
Lukas> As far as I know there are no bugs. There are daily builds at
Lukas> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/>. And Dale made a
Lukas> Metacello definition at <http://www.squeaksource.com/metacello/>, I
Lukas> have not tested that one myself though.
So this is my first time using MetaCello, and it looks like to
bootstrap it from Squeak Trunk, I have to go into the Monticello
Browser GUI, and pick the latest package of ConfigurationOfMetacello
manually.
Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
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11:27 p.m.
El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:15 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
Gofer is used to bootstrap metacello.
With gofer installed in the image (or by monticello browser in
source.lukas-renggli.ch/gofer) evaluate:
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion
Cheers
--
Miguel Cobá
http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> writes:
Lukas> As far as I know there are no bugs. There are daily builds at
Lukas> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/>. And Dale made a
Lukas> Metacello definition at <http://www.squeaksource.com/metacello/>, I
Lukas> have not tested that one myself though.
So this is my first time using MetaCello, and it looks like to
bootstrap it from Squeak Trunk, I have to go into the Monticello
Browser GUI, and pick the latest package of ConfigurationOfMetacello
manually.
Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
11:31 p.m.
>>>> "Miguel" == Miguel Enrique
Cobá Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> writes:
Miguel> No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
If Gofer is ready for primetime, it should be in Squeak trunk by now.
Is there any reason not to include it?
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11:45 p.m.
El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:31 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
Yes, the developers of Gofer work in Pharo and nobody has proposed gofer
to the squeak inbox.
Other than that, Gofer is fueling all the Pharo 1.0 and Metacello 1.0
release since a couple of months full time.
--
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http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
>>>> "Miguel" == Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
<miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> writes:
Miguel> No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
If Gofer is ready for primetime, it should be in Squeak trunk by now.
Is there any reason not to include it?
27 Jan
27 Jan
12:15 a.m.
Randal,
I have been making sure that Gofer runs on the squeak trunk and GemStone (for use with
Metacello)... recently I found two test failures for Gofer on the Squeak trunk, but since
the failures didn't affect operation of Metacello I haven't tried to characterize
the problems ... nothing obvious was wrong otherwise I would have fixed them...
Dale
----- "Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez" <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> wrote
| El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:31 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
| > >>>>> "Miguel" == Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
| <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> writes:
| >
| > Miguel> No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the
| image.
| >
| > If Gofer is ready for primetime, it should be in Squeak trunk by
| now.
| >
| > Is there any reason not to include it?
| >
| Yes, the developers of Gofer work in Pharo and nobody has proposed
| gofer
| to the squeak inbox.
|
| Other than that, Gofer is fueling all the Pharo 1.0 and Metacello 1.0
| release since a couple of months full time.
|
|
| --
| Miguel Cobá
| http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
|
| _______________________________________________
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2:16 a.m.
>>>> "Miguel" == Miguel Enrique
Cobá Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> writes:
Miguel> No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
So this is the shortest Squeak-Trunk way to load Pier2, as a .cs file:
(Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository')
install: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello';
install: 'ConfigurationOfPier2'!
ConfigurationOfMetacello loadLatestVersion!
ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('UI')!
ConfigurationOfPier2 load!
There might be a way to combine the second and third step, but this works.
And loading the UI is needed for Pier2, apparently (?)
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3:25 a.m.
Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:
El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:15 -0800, Randal L.
Schwartz escribió:
Strange you should say that. I find the following in
http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository/ConfigurationOfSeaside-Dale…
ensureMetacello
"Bootstrap Gofer (if necessary), bootstrap ConfigurationOfMetacello
(using old Gofer API), then load the latest
version of Metacello itself."
Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [
Smalltalk at: #Gofer ifAbsent: [
"Current version of Gofer from which to bootstrap - as of 1.0-beta.21"
self bootstrapPackage: 'Gofer-Core-lr.115' from:
'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello' ].
Smalltalk at: #Gofer ifPresent: [:goferClass | | gofer |
gofer := goferClass new
url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello';
yourself.
[ gofer addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello' ] on: Warning do: [:ex
| ex resume ].
gofer load ].
"load 'default' group of Metacello"
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #load ].
This looks like it's loading Gofer automatically if not present.
Cheers,
- Andreas
Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
3:56 a.m.
Andreas,
Gofer is just missing for the initial load of the Configuration itself...
Dale
----- "Andreas Raab" <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> wrote:
| Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:
| > El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:15 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
| >>
| >> Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
| >
| > No way unless squeak trunk includes Gofer as part of the image.
|
| Strange you should say that. I find the following in
|
http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository/ConfigurationOfSeaside-Dale…
|
| ensureMetacello
| "Bootstrap Gofer (if necessary), bootstrap ConfigurationOfMetacello
| (using old Gofer API), then load the latest
| version of Metacello itself."
|
| Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [
| Smalltalk at: #Gofer ifAbsent: [
| "Current version of Gofer from which to bootstrap - as of
| 1.0-beta.21"
| self bootstrapPackage: 'Gofer-Core-lr.115' from:
| 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello' ].
| Smalltalk at: #Gofer ifPresent: [:goferClass | | gofer |
| gofer := goferClass new
| url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello';
| yourself.
| [ gofer addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello' ] on: Warning do:
| [:ex
| | ex resume ].
| gofer load ].
| "load 'default' group of Metacello"
| (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #load ].
|
| This looks like it's loading Gofer automatically if not present.
|
| Cheers,
| - Andreas
|
| _______________________________________________
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8:33 a.m.
I have been making sure that Gofer runs on the squeak
trunk and GemStone (for use with Metacello)... recently I found two test failures for
Gofer on the Squeak trunk, but since the failures didn't affect operation of Metacello
I haven't tried to characterize the problems ... nothing obvious was wrong otherwise I
would have fixed them...
What tests do fail?
If this is the crap with the subdirectories repositories I am tempted
to remove it altogether. I don't think anybody depends on that.
Lukas
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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
16 May
16 May
6:06 p.m.
Hi Lukas:
2010/1/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with Pier 2 preloaded.
I've put that one on the website because it is required for the book:
http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip
Lukas
Two little questions:
1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?
2. How I can apply to Pier2 the skin of "Events" present on Pier 1.2
one click image?
Thanks!
Germán.
18 May
18 May
2:37 p.m.
1. On this image, it's safe to update from
Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?
Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
order:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
2. How I can apply to Pier2 the skin of
"Events" present on Pier 1.2
one click image?
I guess that should be doable quite easily, you have to
backward/forward port the subclass of PRDistribution with that style.
Lukas
--
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www.lukas-renggli.ch
3:39 p.m.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
image is built
with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
Pier 2 preloaded.
1. On this
image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?
Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
order:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
I've put that one on the website because it is
required for the book:
http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip)
Germán.
3:53 p.m.
On 18 May 2010 15:39, Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
image is built
with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
Pier 2 preloaded.
I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
just use the version 2 repositories:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
Lukas
--
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www.lukas-renggli.ch
1. On
this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?
Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
order:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
7:09 p.m.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 18 May 2010 15:39, Germán Arduino
<garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote:
ahh, ok now.
I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
Cheers.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli
<renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
image is built
with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
Pier 2 preloaded.
I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
just use the version 2 repositories:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
1. On
this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?
Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
order:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
7:59 p.m.
2010/5/18 Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>om>:
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
I tried updating each package from magritte2 and pier2 and when
try to start Pier got: WAUrl(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #queryFields
As far as I can check, WAUrl>>purgeOtherFields (and #purgeSeasideFields)
try to use the method #queryFields that don't exist, even on the whole image.
Any hint will be appreciated.
Cheers.
I don't know what image you are using. The
answer is the same, you
just use the version 2 repositories:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
ahh, ok now.
I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
Cheers.
8:01 p.m.
You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
Lukas
On 18 May 2010 19:59, Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2010/5/18 Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>om>:
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www.lukas-renggli.ch
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli
<renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
I tried updating each package from magritte2 and pier2 and when
try to start Pier got: WAUrl(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #queryFields
As far as I can check, WAUrl>>purgeOtherFields (and #purgeSeasideFields)
try to use the method #queryFields that don't exist, even on the whole image.
Any hint will be appreciated.
Cheers.
_______________________________________________
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I don't know what image you are using. The
answer is the same, you
just use the version 2 repositories:
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
ahh, ok now.
I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
Cheers.
10:09 p.m.
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
but I get some WAAttribute not found here and there (I experienced
this behavior before, trying
to to the same).
And as a final results Pier 2 updated don't works.
Do you think I should go back to Pier 1.2 or some image with all the
updated tools will be available soon?
And other question, can you point me some place were the main
differences between Pier 1.2 and 2 are explained?
Thanks and sorry by bother.
Germán.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
You also need to update Seaside to the latest
codebase.
Lukas
10:18 p.m.
I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
to load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how
that's done with Metacello.
Germán Arduino wrote:
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>
> Lukas
19 May
19 May
12:48 a.m.
mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.
2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com>om>:
I think "update Seaside to the latest
codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need to
load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
done with Metacello.
Germán Arduino wrote:
--
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>
> Lukas
_______________________________________________
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1:39 a.m.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com> wrote:
I think "update Seaside to the latest
codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need to
load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
done with Metacello.
Load the baseline.
http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_load_the_last_version_…
?
Germán Arduino wrote:
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the
latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
_______________________________________________
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You also need to update Seaside to the latest
codebase.
Lukas
1:41 a.m.
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote:
mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I
did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.
No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
Cheers
2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com>om>:
I think "update Seaside to the latest
codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
to
load the latest version of each Seaside package.
I'm not sure how that's
done with Metacello.
Germán Arduino wrote:
--
_______________________________________________
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>
> Lukas
_______________________________________________
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1:45 a.m.
Then I'm a bit confused.
Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
"MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
of it that found on the monticello repository?
Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
configuration?
Cheers.
Germán.
2010/5/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote:
mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.
No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
Cheers
2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com>om>:
_______________________________________________
Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
I think "update Seaside to the latest
codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
to
load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
done with Metacello.
Germán Arduino wrote:
--
_______________________________________________
Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.
2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>
> Lukas
_______________________________________________
Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
1:53 a.m.
El mar, 18-05-2010 a las 20:45 -0300, Germán Arduino escribió:
Then I'm a bit confused.
Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
"MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
of it that found on the monticello repository?
Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
configuration?
Remember, Metacello is a tool for specifying working, tested, but mainly
reproducible install of a given software package. This means that
someone has tested that a given set of versions of monticello mcz
packages work together correctly.
If you want to install the very last ones versions of mcz packages in a
repository, this can sometimes work, sometime not, depending on the
speed of updating of the package. Maybe you install when the developer
is uploading the 10th mcz of a total of 50 mcz packages that conform the
software version.
If you only want the last version of each mcz package you can use Gofer
or Installer or simply open the Monticello browser. Metacello isn't
geared towards that case use.
Cheers
Cheers.
Germán.
2010/5/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>om>:
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mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.
No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
Cheers
2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com>om>:
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I think "update Seaside to the latest
codebase" does NOT mean load the
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
to
load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
done with Metacello.
Germán Arduino wrote:
>
> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>
> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>
>
> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>
>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>>
>> Lukas
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Understand.
I think that is suitable to this way of use when we are talking of
tools that are being developed, then usually (to beta versions for
example) we will want the latest of each package (because lot of times
are fixes or so).
Cheers.
Germán.
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Then I'm a bit confused.
Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
"MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
of it that found on the monticello repository?
Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
configuration?
Remember, Metacello is a tool for specifying working, tested, but mainly
reproducible install of a given software package. This means that
someone has tested that a given set of versions of monticello mcz
packages work together correctly.
If you want to install the very last ones versions of mcz packages in a
repository, this can sometimes work, sometime not, depending on the
speed of updating of the package. Maybe you install when the developer
is uploading the 10th mcz of a total of 50 mcz packages that conform the
software version.
If you only want the last version of each mcz package you can use Gofer
or Installer or simply open the Monticello browser. Metacello isn't
geared towards that case use.
Cheers
Cheers.
Germán.
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mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.
No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
Cheers
2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com>om>:
> I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
> latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
> to
> load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
> done with Metacello.
>
>
> Germán Arduino wrote:
>>
>> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
>> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>>
>> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
>> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>>
>>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>>>
>>> Lukas
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