Dear Mirko,
 
I really appreciate your project however to be honest and allthough my websites runs a Pier one click image, I never really understood what Margriite really is. As a very happy Glorp user (945 calls to glorpSession) I would however prefer that you don't change Glorp's API as might be your intention. I pretty much would prefer you to follow the official branch.
 
What I really would like to see however (but this is obviously another subject) is the Glorp documentation to be hosted on a Pier / Margritte image. This will give us way more possibilities to improve and help it's adoption.
 
@+Maarten,
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mirko Kiefer" <mirko.kiefer@arcor.de>
To: "ESUG Mailing list" <esug-list@lists.esug.org>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Esug-list] GLORP & Magritte integration/refactoring


Of course the link to the project description would be useful ;)
http://gsoc2010.esug.org/projects/glorp%20&%20magritte%20integration/refactoring/proposal-a


On Apr 19, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Mirko Kiefer wrote:

> Hi all,
> I submitted a proposal for the GSoC project "GLORP & Magritte integration/refactoring" and would greatly appreciate if some Mentors could review it.
> GLORP and Magritte are both really exciting frameworks that can solve problems thousands of developers are hassling with. I believe that especially in web-applications there is a huge potential to make life easier for many developers if such frameworks would become more accessible and better promoted.
> The project I want to work on aims at integrating Magritte which allows automatic generating of user interfaces with GLORP which is a great framework for storing your objects into a relational database. The plan is to integrate and separate the common parts of both and simplify the way you use both frameworks.
> There is an interesting conversation on the ESUG mailing (starting at 2010-03-10) list that led to the idea of this project - especially the comments of Alan Knight and Niall Ross were quite insightful to me.
> At the end of the project there will be an integrated and refactored codeset and a sample application demonstrating the ease of use of the integrated frameworks.
> If we are then able to promote these frameworks in an adequate way combined with what we have with Seaside I see a great opportunity to attract more developers to the Smalltalk community.
> Look at what led to the great popularity of a language like Ruby - it was not only the language itself, it was frameworks like Ruby on Rails which greatly simplified the development of web applications including straightforward mapping to a database. Well, I believe a combination of Seaside, GLORP and Magritte can make these tasks even easier. The problem is that these frameworks are hard to get into initially and that people only realize how great they are once they spent some time actually using them.
> The project I want to work on is one step in reducing this barrier and I plan to continue it even after GSoC, especially in terms of writing tutorials and usage examples.
> So hope you can afford a bit of time to review the project and give me feedback and advise.
>
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