From ducasse@iam.unibe.ch Fri Sep 17 08:40:31 2004
From: =?utf-8?q?st=C3=A9phane?= ducasse <ducasse@iam.unibe.ch>
To: smallwiki@list.inf.unibe.ch
Subject: Re: Smallwiki 2
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:40:31 +0200
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On 17 sept. 04, at 10:31, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Hi Alex and others,
>
>> I loaded it and runned it. It looks good!
>> There is also some sunit test.
>
> thanks. I tried to improve the model a lot. Especially the problem 
> with the folders/pages is solved now, I think. It is in SCG StORE, 
> marked as broken:
>
> * I simplified the structure-hierarchy only to contain Page and 
> Resource; no concept of Folder anymore. But there are decorators that 
> can be wrapped around, e.g. to add children to a page. Currently I'm 
> thinking about putting a lot of functionality into those decorators, 
> this makes the structure hierarchy much more slim and easier to 
> understand I think.
>
> What I did so far is the ChildrenDecoration that works pretty well. I 
> started now with the VersionDecoration that should represent the 
> previous version; I'm still unsure about the details of this 
> decoration, it is pretty tricky. Other decorators like security, 
> logging, virtual folders, etc. will be added later on. I think such a 
> design is much better as it separates the different concerns in a 
> cleaner way. I'm very interested what everybody thinks about this 
> (radical) change in the design?

this is interesting. I see the influence of seaside there :). If this 
cleaned up the design and make simpelr perfect

As an example I would like to know if we could have this way:
	- external resource (files contained explicitly out of the image)
	- redirection

> * I implemented a more robust way of looking up pages trough a path. 
> The new lookup has been taken out of the Structure hierarchy and is 
> put into a visitor. It supports (unix-)paths starting at current 
> position 'abc/def', paths starting at the root of the wiki '/abc/def', 
> relative paths '../abc' and all combinations of those. There are a lot 
> of tests. I think this will make everything much more easy to use, 
> especially for the end users.

Excellent. Because I was always confused.
>
> * What is more, is that I updated the wiki syntax with better support 
> for tables: At ESUG I was asked if it is possible to align table-cells 
> different to the default behaviour given in the css-stylesheets. 
> SmallWiki 2 now supports an extended table syntax, maybe someone wants 
> to back-port this to SmallWiki 1?

No we should not lose time with SWI.
I will already try to make sure that what frederick did is not lost but 
for the rest we should go for SW2 as
soon as possible.

>
> <table>       := <table_row>+
> <table_row>   := <table_cell>+ <cr>
> <table_cell>  := "|" <table_content>      # default
>               |  "|{" <table_content>     # left
>               |  "||" <table_content>     # center
>               |  "|}" <table_content>     # right
>
> Mhh, all these changes made break the whole command-pattern, the 
> context hierarchy and all the views of course. There will be some work 
> needed to adapt the changes.
>
>> I would like to help, what do you want me to do ? How could I help ? 
>> Lukas, perhaps we could meet each other. I am at the University 
>> everyday (especially the week end) until (very) late in the evening. 
>> Just tell me when you have a bit of time.
>
> Yes, this is a very good idea! I'm willing to spend one day a week to 
> do pair-programming on SmallWiki. Sometime by the end of the next week 
> would be fine.

Excellent this is the best way to make sure something happen.

Stef
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> -- 
> Lukas Renggli
> http://renggli.freezope.org
>


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