Hola, Andrei demoed it to me on friday and it is *extremely* cool. I can’t wait to start using it for my next development session. I have one request though (as I already mentioned to Andrei). Since you are using a significant part of the screen, it would not be costly to (e.g. at the bottom) put a small legend of the non-obvious keystroke combinations. It would greatly increase discoverability of the features of the tool. Considering the blog post, the legend would be ( I don’t understand the difference between the last 2): Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive into, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = ??? the Glamorous Toolkit: and in Pharo. <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> <gtspotter-playground.png> instructions from: ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

the Glamorous Toolkit: Excellent work, all around. Congratulations to the team. Thank you for pushing things like this, for thinking differently. Yes, I want this in Pharo 4 too, ASAP (especially since the main shortcut is different from the old one, cmd+Enter vs. shift+Enter). The presentation is again very well done too: excellent article, super movie. You are putting the bar very high for the rest of us ;-) A suggestion/idea: would it be possible to take the current selection anywhere and feed it into Spotter ? That way there would be very good way to make it replace all the other shortcuts: you would get implementers, senders, references almost for free. Sven

Doru, One of the things/aspects that I miss a bit is the 'objects' part. In your overall description/presentation you talk about 'objects', but right now I would say it are mainly 'code objects' like classes & methods and friends, and some IDE artefacts, like menus. What about arbitrary (user) objects ? Literal constants, like 123, 'some string' ? Globals like the Transcript ? Singletons accessible by class side accessors, like announcers ? An evaluation functionality, just type an expression ? Examples ? The clipboard (contents), open windows, processes, ... Anyway, I am sure you get the idea ;-) Sven of the things we should keep in mind. For that we need to go to the next step and integrate the interface in the overall environment. This will certainly come. wrote: the Glamorous Toolkit: pushing things like this, for thinking differently. shortcut is different from the old one, cmd+Enter vs. shift+Enter). movie. You are putting the bar very high for the rest of us ;-) anywhere and feed it into Spotter ? That way there would be very good way to make it replace all the other shortcuts: you would get implementers, senders, references almost for free.

Hi Doru and all, Great work. All these tools are really moving the development experience a step forward :) I will try it ASAP. At this time, I just wonder if it is possible to search text in method sources. It is often useful.

Another related thing I don't know how to do, is to refactor a set of methods (could be some methods to 20 or more). In these methods, I send a specific message. Now, I just want to remove the message implementation (it is not a rename) and I have to update the code accordingly. Sometimes, I could do that by just a search/replace (text) functionality (would be cool to use patterns there) in methods source code but I cannot find a way do that for now. So I do it by hand. I wonder if it already exists a way to do that or if GTSpotter could address this issue.

Christophe. Le 7 déc. 2014 à 14:14, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi, Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the Glamorous Toolkit: GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. GTSpotter has two goals: - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow in Pharo. Here is a couple of screenshots: <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> <gtspotter-playground.png> A trailer is available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU A detailed description is available here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the instructions from: http://gt.moosetechnology.org Please let us know what you think. Enjoy, The Glamorous Team

Sorry, but no :-( I am always confused when people say ‘category’ because the word has so many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the collection object? shortkeys directly on the actions. Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

OK now I get it … thanks for clarifying! I think my confusion stems from the use of ‘category' and then talking about 'the collection object’, which made me think about collections and source code and protocols and packages and I got lost. I think that the sentence of the blog would be clearer like this (uppercase to show changes): To do this, GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a RESULTS category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection OF RESULTS OF that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. So then, my suggestion for a legend at the bottom of the results list would be: Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive into Result, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = Dive into Category explaining. results both for Classes and for Packages. These "Classes" and "Packages" are what we call search categories, and they have associated a query processor that can populate them with results (see the "Spotting your objects" section from the bottom of the post). that match the query. If you want to look at all those 39 classes, you can dive in the whole collection behind the category in a separate step. This is achieved through Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight. Does it make more sense now? another name? wrote: many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the collection object? shortkeys directly on the actions. Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

On Sep 19, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Sean P. DeNigris &lt;sean(a)clipperadams.com&gt; wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote How did your explorations go in this area? Anything we can play with?!

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On Sep 20, 2017, at 4:32 AM, Sean P. DeNigris &lt;sean(a)clipperadams.com&gt; wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote Ah, okay I'll take a look. Anywhere in particular to start? Is there a way to differentiate object vs. class extensions? ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Moose-f1310756.html _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

Hello Doru Is the gtspotter included in Pharo 6.0/6.1 the same as the one in the Moose image? --Hannes On 9/20/17, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com&gt; wrote:

Take a look here...