thanks thomas Should I conclude that you are using Moose to run our business? This is a great news. Stef On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Thomas Haug <thomas.haug(a)mathema.de> wrote:

Hi Stef, I am working as Java and C# developer/architect and consultant. I tried to understand Smalltalk, but to be honest it's quite hard for me as Java/C# guy :-) Software metrics and analysis are some sort of hobby of myself (as you might have been guessed from my web site), but I also use it sometimes to explain to colleagues if I see "trouble" ahead ;-) Therefore I am using different views like the system complexity view (e.g. in MOOSE) and "rarely" the class blue print. Additionally I facilitate the city metaphor to express software design. I have written an article on that topic in the german dotnetpro magazine in februar this year, using CodeCity and my famixgenerator. cheers Thomas ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----

On Jul 1, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Thomas Haug <thomas.haug(a)mathema.de> wrote: :) You know normally we do not teach smalltalk and the students (the good ones) get two weeks to get started and they do. So I'm convinced that if you would do it for real it would take you 2-3 weeks max. Thanks!

And MIT license would be even more welcome :) Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Stéphane Ducasse &lt;stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Thomas Haug &lt;thomas.haug(a)mathema.de> > Hi Doru, > > license: since it is still in an very early stage, I have not decided > yet... but I guess the generator tool will be freely. > tust: good question, It should be quite accurate, but I have to write > more tests on that... ;-) > design disharmonies (based on Lanza/Marinescu book): currently I can only > "calculate" Data Classes, the other disharmonies are not really calculated > so far. > scalability/performance: since I parse compiled code it is currently fast > enough (at least for my purposes). I'm planning to prototype the > integration of other parser but this has low prio. > > I will definitely work on this project: You might have seen my video that > I am currently implementing my personal "interpretation" of CodeCity as an > native .NET application ( see here<http://www.sharpmetrics.net/index.php/visualisierung/staedtemetaphe…ty>, > the video is in Denglish, a.k.a. German (*D*eutsch) english). This tool > is not published so far, because it need much more work on it. > But in order to "give something back" to the MOOSE and CodeCity community > I am still planning to enhance the famix generator. > > > Thanks we appreciate it. If you think about a BSD license this wil > excellent because we will be able to contribute. > > > Good night > Thomas > > ------------------------------ > > Hi Thomas, > > This is great news! Thanks for sharing. > > A couple of questions: > - What is the license of the code and of the tool? > - How detailed is the model? I looked briefly at the MSE samples from the > site and saw that your model include even Access and Invocation. This is > exciting. How much do you trust the accuracy of the information? > - I also saw that you export properties like design problems and metrics > (see a snippet below): > (GodClass true) > (DataClass true) > (BrainClass true) > (RefusedParentBequest true) > (TraditionBreaker true) > (WLOC 0.0) > (WNOS 11.0) > How do you compute the design problems? Is it based on the Object-oriented > metrics in practice book? > - I did not have a chance to run the tool yet, but how scalable and fast > is it? > - Do you plan to invest more time into it? > > Do you need help? If you provide a case study perhaps we can work through > it. > > In any case, great work. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Thomas Haug &lt;thomas.haug(a)mathema.de&gt; > >> Hi everybody, >> >> I have implemented a Famix-Generator which analyses .NET assemblies and >> produces mse files for CodeCity as well as the MOOSE platform. >> >> If you want to give it a try, you can download it from my site (german, I >> am sorry - I will change that in near future): >> http://www.sharpmetrics.net/index.php/famix-generator >> >> The generator creates famix artifacts for namespaces, types (classes, >> interfaces, enums und structs), methods, methods calls and local variables. >> the tool is not complete (missing features, bugs?), I will enhance it >> during the next weeks or months.. ;-) >> >> (BTW you need a .NET 4.0 installed on your machine. It does not run on >> the Mono plattform, right now.) >> >> Cheers >> Thomas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Hi, On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Thomas Haug &lt;thomas.haug(a)mathema.de&gt; wrote: As soon as you define the license, we announce it officially on the main website :). Interesting. This indeed, does not sound like a priority. Thank you! You are filling an important hole in the Moose eco system. Please keep up the good work. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "We are all great at making mistakes."

Wow! This is great. About the license: if you do not put any license, it means nobody can officially do anything with it. If you do not want to open the sources, but want to offer a simple "as-is" license for the binary, perhaps you can use a historical easy to grasp notice like in: http://opensource.org/licenses/HPND Or you could simply use a CreativeCommons-Attribution: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ And thanks for promoting Moose, too! When the article appears, please do let us know so that we can advertise it more. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Thomas Haug &lt;thomas.haug(a)mathema.de&gt; wrote: -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"