Hello all,
Rapidly sharing some points with you guys regarding Synectique and this community...
- VerveinJ should be available to you guys to conduct your experiments, extract MSEs and save them. As Stef mentioned, it should be free and open to use for the people in the community. This is because VJ has improved a lot because of the feedback from the community and we do not want to lose this precious loop.
- Synectique is transitioning from "not-sure" to "looks interesting" phase so from September we should start to look for appropriate usage licences for VerveineJ so that will clarify the "not sure" situation around VJ.
- May be this is pharo-related issue but very soon we need to look for a database to store analysis results because i) we need to store a lot of data ii) we do not want to get into resolving issues related to data consistency, concurrent accesses, data merging, etc.
- Companies working in the domain of software analysis have this constant size problem: very soon we will face it too. Since, this community gathers some of the most exp. people in software analysis, it would be good to see how we can innovate in Moose to resolve the problem.
And thanx a lot for all the tools created in this community that serves us as enabling techno. Currently, we might not have sufficient time to improve the Moose infrastructure as we would like to but the least we can do is to contribute with our feedback on the tools and improve them whenever we can.
regards,
Usman
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:38 PM, jannik.laval
<jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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>>> I'm sorry but we do not want to give everything for free all the time.
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>> :) it was just a joke.
>> I want to say that I am not sure the message is good: "you can use Moose, it is open-source, but must pay for importing data".
>> You are right, this is a commercial message, and maybe it is a bonus for Synectique...
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> It is not a bonus. It is important. Our goal is to make sure that our company gets a chance in face of the too many companies in the field.
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>> Now, I have a researcher point of view and I think that using a tool that is open source is easier than contacting guys and maybe they answer or not. And if not ? I will use another tool.
> did you send an email and did not get an answer? I guess not so there is no problem.
Not from you, but we are experimenting some tools and guys do not answers about their tools... so not possible to compare.
> I think that having a company around moose is the best that can happen to Moose even if it can make the system more complex.
> If we play smart everybody can benefit from it.
>
> If synectique fails then it will be far easier but much sadder.
You are probably right.
And I hope the best for Synectique.
Jannik
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Jannik Laval