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2011/6/4 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>

Cool! Can you try a class blueprint?

Alexandre

On 3 Jun 2011, at 22:39, Santiago Vidal wrote:

> Hi,

> I committed the Mondrian extensions to support the HTML/Protovis file generation. It took some time because I had some performances issues whit dragging. Also, I had to use an external library to the tooltips because Protovis only supports basic tooltips in a single line. Owing to these problems some additional files are required to run the generated html (I'm attaching these files).

> Currently the visitor only support the generation of graphics with rectangle nodes and edges. Specifically, inner nodes, DistributionMap, and system complexity. (I'm also attaching an example of each one)
> I gladly welcome your comments! ;)
> Cheers
> Santiago
>
> 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
> Looks good.
> Edges now
>
> Alexandre
>
> On 30 May 2011, at 16:03, Santiago Vidal wrote:
>
> > I have changed the implementation. Now you can click and drag the inner nodes. The new file is in the attachment.
> > Take care
> > Santiago
> >
> > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
> > > Currently you can select an inner node but you can't drag it. That is because the position of an inner node is determined by the position of its parent. However, I think that the implementation could be change properly.
> >
> > Ok, let us know
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
> > >
> > > 2011/5/30 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looks good. However, I think there is a problem: the inner nodes do drag together with the parent node, but I would also like to be able to interact with the inner nodes (e.g., drag or click). Is this a conceptual problem, or is it simple a missing implementation?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Doru
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 May 2011, at 18:22, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, the tittle is wrong. They are inner nodes. I use this example code:
> > > > view nodes: (1 to: 5) forEach: [:each |
> > > > view nodes: (1 to: each).
> > > > view gridLayout ]
> > > >
> > > > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
> > > > Yes, this is what I see. But the image is named inner edges and I do not see any edge.
> > > > An edge is a line
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Alexandre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 30 May 2011, at 11:12, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You should see this
> > > > > <InnerEdges.png>
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
> > > > > Good start!
> > > > > In innerEdgesExampleWithAbsolutePosition.html I do not see any edge. Am I the only one? I use Safari and OSX.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you try with _large_ visualization? Try to import the whole Moose and generate the visualizations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexandre
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 30 May 2011, at 10:52, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I have been working in visualization examples of complexity, inner nodes, and distribution map. I used for these examples the second option that we discuss previously. The examples are in the attachment.
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Santiago
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2011/5/27 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should go for both options.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Start with 2, and for 1, you will create new MondrianLayouts that will only work directly with Protovis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Doru
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 19:02, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know yet. In principle I'm going to implement the drag & drop behavior. In going to try to make an example using the Mondrian representation for Monday.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2011/5/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree with Alex, but I have a question: how do you plan to handle interactions, more specifically node replacement operations?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:22, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I feel we should opt for 2).
> > > > > > > > We should export the visualization using Protovis, not recoding Mondrian in Protovis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alexandre
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:19, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > >> I have been working in the visualization of the inner nodes. In general I have 2 options to work with protovis:
> > > > > > > >> • Be independent of the data by means of the use of Protovis Layouts.
> > > > > > > >> • Copy the same visualization that is used by Mondrian. That is create a Protovis canvas of the same size that the canvas of Mondrian and place each shape in Protovis in the same location that in the canvas of Mondrian.
> > > > > > > >> While the first option is more modifiable than the second, it implies the creation of new layouts when they are needed.
> > > > > > > >> The main advantage of the second option is that the generated html file could be interactive (such as the example that I send before). However, it doesn't improve the graphics generated by Mondrian.
> > > > > > > >> What do you think is the best option?
> > > > > > > >> Cheers
> > > > > > > >> Santiago
> > > > > > >
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