On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the concrete points. I will follow up with another email.

Doru

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:

Hi all,

here are my two cents on what can be improved given the screenshot:

- scrollbars up/down buttons don’t have the arrows. There is no way to distinguish between the slider and the button. See the list of classes for an example. This is really annoying.
- buttons don’t have borders that outline them. In my opinion, a convention that has been used since more than 20 years should not be broken just like that.
- drop down menus don’t have an icon in their drop down box.
- the entire group of ‘groups, hierarchy, class side, comments’ is ugly with all the spurious white lines
- the white border on the left and right of the window is annoying. It should be or a thicker gray window border, or the widgets should go out to the end.

To be positive: the border around the drop down menus makes them much better than before.

On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:38 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks. This is something concrete.
>
> Now, please look at an active window, not a passive one like it was depicted in the screenshot from Stef. See the attached one.
>

> <active-window-whitetheme.png>

>
> Doru
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
>
> On 26 Jun 2014, at 10:52, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stef,
>>
>> I have tried before and I will continue to try to work with people and treat this problem in an engineering way.
>>
>> It seems to me that you find the two screenshots self evident. I do not.
>>
>> First, you provided the white theme screenshot for a window that is passive, not active.
>>
>> Then, do you have problems identifying the parts in the window?
>
> List separators are ending in a strange way at the top.
>
>>
>> Doru
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Why this broken theme is still the default theme?
>> Do we think that this is a good promotion for Moose and Pharo? Seriously?
>> So I’m waiting for an answer and based on this answer I will take actions because this is too long now that the system
>> is on his knees from that perspective.
>>
>> Stef
>>
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