On 5 December 2011 13:10, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

let us (pharo) know the problems because this is really strange.

Stef

On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Hani performed two experiments. One with the default VM shipped with
> the Pharo OneClick, and one with the latest VM from Eliot.
>
> When using the VM from Eliot, he only got an error that seemed to be
> related to not finding something in squeaksource. That is why we
> concluded that it might have been related to squeaksource.
>
> Doru
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
>> Yesterday I was able to install it on OSX but not on WindowsXP, and at the same time.
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 06:57, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Mariano.
>>>
>>> Indeed, most likely the issue with the last email was a squeaksource problem.
>>>
>>> Hani, could you retry?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>> <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Weird. I have just tried in my machine and it works. Maybe squeaksource was
>>>> down?
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Hani Abdeen <hani.abdeen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doru,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>>> Ok, the Croquet VM
>>>>> (http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip) does not
>>>>> crash while loading Moose on Pharo image but I still get errors when trying
>>>>> to load moose configuration. See the attached logs for more information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The premade Moose images on Moose website work well :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:51, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:07, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>>>> I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed
>>>>>>> crashes.
>>>>>>> At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are
>>>>>>> using it on a windows without any problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip is the last stable OneClick
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> There is also Pharo-1.4.zip but it's annotated as unstable on
>>>>>>> Pharo-Project website. I'll try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex meant that you could use the premade Moose OneClick image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing you can try is to use another VM instead of the one from
>>>>>> the pharo oneclick. For example, try:
>>>>>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, try redoing the experiment and run the Pharo image with the newly
>>>>>> downloaded VM and let us know if it is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The
>>>>>>> installation is a bit tricky however.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I agree, it's great to have a strong mac and run Windows on Mac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose
>>>>>>>> was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that
>>>>>>>> was a simple accident.
>>>>>>>> So what I did many many times is the following:
>>>>>>>> - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip
>>>>>>>> - execute pharo.exe
>>>>>>>> - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."
>>>>>>>> - then do:
>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>>>>>>> load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash
>>>>>>>> or an error I thought that I should ask about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Hani,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this
>>>>>>>> script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that
>>>>>>>> should not make much of a difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact
>>>>>>>> links, code and step orders)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default
>>>>>>>>> configuration of Moose not Magma:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>>>>>>>> load.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attached the log and crash dmp files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to
>>>>>>>>> load Magma in a Moose image?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian
>>>>>>>>>> configuration file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Hani Abdeen <hani.abdeen@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stef,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and
>>>>>>>>>>> familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
>>>>>>>>>>> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the
>>>>>>>>>>> default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the
>>>>>>>>>>> VM crashes!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
>>>>>>>>>>> load.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project
>>>>>>>>>>> latestVersion) load
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for
>>>>>>>>>>> more information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use
>>>>>>>>>>> another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen
>>>>>>>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
>>>>>>>>>> <crash.dmp>
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