Pablo Estefó wrote:

On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:

How about some system utilities like:
* https://windirstat.info

That tool is awesome. It’s helped me a lot to save HDD space by finding big piles of junk.
Yeah :)
Now if people start saying the same about an end-user application that just "happens" to be developed in Pharo - which they have access to customise the source code - then I think that is a path to lead people to our promised land.
So we need to consider the path people will take.
1. Have a need for some small niche task. 
2. Searching for an end-user App to do that task.
3. Got task done. Now looking at "advanced" features for curiosity.
4. Come across a built-in tutorial on how to extend some small part of the App.  They still don't know its "Smalltalk"
5. Digging deeper leads to "Wow!", and our job is done :)

The trick is to capture peoples attention before that decide they need to learn a new programming language.  And these days its all about attention!  There are so many other distractions.  Learning a new language can seem a big commitment, whereas each of those steps is a small thing that they already wanted to do.
cheers, Ben


* Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure.
cheers -ben

Alexandre Bergel wrote: 
Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo.

I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects).

Alexandre


On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:

  
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel
<alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
    
Hi!

In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas.

Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website?
      
Yes sure ;-)
How much time do they have for their projects ?

Regards,
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
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