On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Please, let's put ultimatums aside. The issue is not allPropertySelectors, and not even problems in the core (which actually are not that many). It would be great indeed to have more comments, and I would welcome any effort in this direction.
>
> However, the main issue is collaboration around the infrastructure. Everyone is working in his own corner with very little integration and collaboration happening. I can coordinate the work and spread knowledge around, but only if people work with me.
>
> We started to get this regular chats with the Cyrille and Andre, and things improved. But, then holidays came and we are again in no-communication land. I actually do not even know if someone is still working on Moose-something.
>
> The reason I called for projects was to try to establish a sense of common goals, but it was clear that this is not desired. Moose was developed by relentlessly integrating and on building on each others efforts. Right now I am the only one investing in maintaining core and seeing that things work with each other.
>
> I work well with Alex who does a great job of maintaining Mondrian, but these kind of collaborations should be broader.
>
> So, here is a proposal:
> Who wants to join the core team?
>
> Right now we have:
>       • Stef
>       • Me
>       • Simon
>       • Alex
>
> Joining the core team would imply investing at least 2h / week on actually working on the infrastructure, and on cleaning it.

ok count me in

>
> Simon, I am not sure if you are interested in this anymore. Stef, do you have the time to do it? Alex, do you want to work on more than Mondrian? I certainly will continue.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2011, at 09:36, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi moosers
>>
>> I would like to know if you are interested in Moose?
>> Why because the comments are not good.
>>
>> Now this is simple either we let moose decay (I can focus on Pharo easily) or we do something
>>
>> Now I should know what you can do and energy you can put on the table because there is little use
>> we get a new engineer and postdoc (because if the core is not clean than nobody can learn from it).
>>
>>
>> So
>>      Plan A- build a roadmap and do it (I can probably work every two evenings on it for a month).
>>
>>              Right now (this evening we log on chat and we fix) these two
>>
>>                      allPropertySelectors
>>                              is used
>>                      allDeclaredProperties
>>                              is used
>>
>>                      FamixCore class comments
>>
>>      Plan B - I focus only on pharo (because I cannot do both especially right now).
>>
>> But I should know because we are hiring a new engineer and a new postdoc for moose and without a community effort
>> I do not see the point.
>>
>> Stef
>>
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